FilmFellas Cast 7: Documentaries “Masters of Non-Fiction”


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Cast 7 kicks off a new series of FilmFellas with a game of telephone to demonstrate the complexities of documenting history. The Fellas discuss getting to know your subject on a personal level to make a more insightful film.

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79 Responses to “FilmFellas Cast 7: Documentaries “Masters of Non-Fiction””

  1. Henry on April 22nd, 2010 12:47 pm

    Cool!

    Hi Susan, when will the 1st Episode go live?

    Thanks

  2. Susan Rapp on April 22nd, 2010 1:33 pm

    Hey Henry ~ FilmFellas Cast 7 Webisode 1 premeires April 28th! See you then. Cheers, ~Sue

  3. Steve Weiss on April 23rd, 2010 5:57 pm

    I’m so excited about this FilmFellas Cast 7, this is my passion point and to have a cast with this level of talent is truly a treasure.  This is a must watch series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. Christopher Harley on April 23rd, 2010 9:35 pm

    I’m really excited to see FilmFellas come back! And this cast is the perfect balance of old-school/new-school.

    Clips from David Grubin’s “The Jewish Americans” can be found at PBS Online and on Netflix Instant Watch, Ondi Timoner’s “We Live in Public” is available.

  5. Susan Rapp on April 25th, 2010 10:52 am

    Christopher ~ thanks for the links and you are so right when you say “Old School + New School”. David Grubin is amazing and I love the energy between him and Steve, you won’t be disappointed. See you here next week on the 28th for the premiere. Cheers, ~Sue

  6. claudioagmfilho on April 26th, 2010 12:54 pm

    we will be there …

  7. Christopher Harley on April 27th, 2010 3:11 am

    Tomorrow! I’m stoked!

  8. Avey on April 28th, 2010 11:20 am

    Enjoyed that. Looking forward to the next ones. You guys are always both informative AND entertaining. Nice work!
    Avey
    theactionhouse.com

  9. Dale Kamp on April 28th, 2010 11:37 am

    Very interesting as always. I’ll be sure to check out the work of everyone here tomorrow.

  10. Rob Imbs on April 28th, 2010 12:08 pm

    I think there’s two types of documentary films:
    Doc’s that lean more towards having an “agenda”, and doc’s that take more of an objective approach. I think the popular doc’s now adays are very agenda driven. These films, are more entertaining and faster paced. But on the flip side, I think doc’s that are conducted in a more objective manner are usually more rewarding and truthful.

    Way to start off by playing telephone. I was hoping that the sang would go around the table perfectly because they all have so much experience “documenting” ;)

  11. Cliff Etzel on April 28th, 2010 5:52 pm

    The wait has been worth it – the one cast I’ve been patiently waiting for – and so far, I’m not disappointed.  As a solo video journalist with a strong interest in shooting this kind of work, I’m eager to see what these cast members have to say about shooting documentaries.

    Thanks to all at Zacuto for finally bringing this to life!

    Cliff Etzel
    Solo Video Journalist
    bluprojekt | Solovj.com (blog)

  12. Steve Weiss on April 28th, 2010 6:54 pm

    Thank you Cliff, I’m so glad you like it.  I enjoyed every minute talking to these folks.

    Many people have asked me about how we do this show.  Here goes:

    The people arrive at our studio at 10am.  We spend an hour taking poster pictures, rotating each person in and out of makeup.  The set is completely lit, mic’d, dressed and ready to go.  Then we usually have a crew lunch and start shooting at 1pm.  We sit down and get mic’d up.  Once action is called this is one continous 80 minute conversation with no starts and stops.  Then we yell cut, immediately the conversation continues with the cast and crew for about another 60 minutes.  We probably should be rolling that too ;-)  The cast is released at around 3:30.  Five hours start to finish.  

    That conversation is then essentially edit into 5 segments (webisodes) and switched between cameras.  So what you are seeing is pretty much exactly what happened.  My original concept for the show was cameras at eye height and a dolly shot so you feel like you’re at the table and involved with the conversation.  Black background with the actors in a soft pool of contained light which keeps the focus on them, adding to the intensity of the conversation.  

    These conversations are very engaging and I really enjoy doing these shows.

  13. Darren on April 28th, 2010 7:20 pm

    I always love the age ranges that you have on the shows lately.  Lot’s of experiences and wisdom to be had here so kudos for bringing that to this screen.

    I have one question for Steve, are you strapped in case Jens and Philip break onto the set for revenge?

  14. Steve Weiss on April 28th, 2010 8:34 pm

    Thanks Darren.
    I try to bring three different angles to the subject and it’s a bonus if they are of different generations and sexes.  Sometimes it’s hard in a male predominant industry.  But we try to get the best talent regardless of being male or female.

    Their always seem to be an anchor cast member who we get first, in this case it was David.  Which I was shocked to get.  He had primarily a TV background, so I told my producer Scott we need to look for someone who is is a Docu Feature Producer/Director.  Ondi’s name came up right away and we were thrilled to get her.  Then I wanted someone who was in their 20′s early 30′s who used the internet for their canvas.  We had a really hard time finding this cast member and it got really down to the wire as to who it would be.  I saw this piece call Moments   http://www.zacuto.com/16-moments by Will Hoffman and immediately was struck by the idea of this piece being a silent musical documentary.  But Will had prior commitments and couldn’t do it.  Then my producer showed me “The Archive” by Sean Dunne and I started to read about him and watch other works he did and when I saw the volume of viewers he was getting I was sold.  He is the new generation getting an audience on the internet.  I loved that.  Scott contacted him and I was so glad that he was available.  

    Now to your question.  YES.  Jens is operating the dolly and I can tell he’s chomping at the bit to jump into the conversation.  When it came to FF6 I knew it was really in Jens department to host that FF because he is a DP.  Jens will be back as the host in FF8 “ASC Cinematographers” with Stephen Goldblat and 2 other ASC cinematographers which I can’t announce quite yet.  But it is going to be a stellar cast and Jens is a great host.

    As for Phil, he’s a pussy and I’m not worried about him ;-)  I put him in his place in FF6!!!! 

  15. Gary Nadeau on April 29th, 2010 11:55 pm

    Really enjoyed this one. I hope you got to discuss Dig! w. Ondi – another amazing piece of “serendipitous” filmmaking. I can’t wait to see We Live in Public. 

    Steve – your passion for filmmaking really shows through on every level – from production to hosting. Great job to you and your colleagues! 

  16. Steve Weiss on April 30th, 2010 9:25 am

    Thanks Gray that means a lot coming from you.

  17. Susan Rapp on April 30th, 2010 1:25 pm

    Rob ~ thanks for always supporting our shows. You really need to see “We Live in Public” by Ondi Timoner — especially since we live our lives so much in Social Media. Twitter hugs, ~Sue

  18. Phil Jackson on May 2nd, 2010 1:37 pm

    I won’t be surprised at the amount of great film philosophies that will be said throughout this show. Doc making has so many levels of personal involvement that you really can have an infinite amount of ways of shooting/presenting it. This will be an interesting watch.

  19. Chris Gibbs on May 3rd, 2010 12:59 pm

    Just fantastic — Its so refreshing to get input from working documentary filmmakers.  I hope you make many more like this one Steve, big thank-you sir!

    Cheers,
    Chris Gibbs

  20. Jonathan Pears on May 5th, 2010 8:48 am

    Wow! This series will be the best one yet. I always had the opinion that docu’ film makers were some of the deepest thinking, most creative people out there in the film world! I’ve gotta be honest here and say that i’ve never heard of David, so i’m excited to now go investigate his work….

    I like the saying that “honesty is not synonymous with truth”. As a documentary filmmaker you could be as honest as you like with your content, but if the people giving that information are misguided, it lacks the truth that the project is seeking. So that was a great way to start the show Steve, the whole ‘chinese wispers’ game was a great show of how things can lose their validity.
    I think a great example was the Frost Nixon interviews, if that hadn’t of happened, the US public would still be misguided on things like watergate. With film being such a useful learning tool, its safe to say “where would we be without the documentary filmmaker”  :)

    Awesome series, can’t wait for episode 2!!!!

  21. H. Wolfgang Porter on May 5th, 2010 10:30 pm

    This is really nice starting out the topic the way you did. I cut my teeth in this biz with the US Naval Combat Camera teams. At the time I got into it they were transitioning away from strict documentation to a more cinematic style of story telling. During the years I was with the teams, we won a lot of awards and I shot more documentaries than most folks will shoot in a lifetime. One thing I found was no matter how much you want to impose your will on the ‘story’, it’s going to ‘tell itself’. Eight times out of ten what develops is so much better than what you went in there to get. The ‘truth’ in memorable documentaries in my mind comes from just telling the story and keeping your influence minimal as possible. I dug how David (paraphrasing) said how ‘you have to influence your film to get it done.’ When that influence is done with a near invisible hand you get those ‘oh wow’ kind of doc’s.

  22. Eddie Ilie on May 13th, 2010 9:48 pm

    When is the third episode of “The Great Camera Shootout 2010″ going to be uploaded? I cannot wait to see DSLRs working with GREEN SCREEN. :)

  23. Lindsay on May 19th, 2010 11:41 pm

    At the very real risk of being the naive newby here I would love to learn the lighting plan for this shoot. I just looove the soft richness of it…

  24. Charles on May 22nd, 2010 9:42 am

    Steve, Great topic for discussion.  I came about your webisode in a very round-about, link to link to link way and glad I did.  I do institutional videos and messaging (at present I am working on scripts for the IAEA) Outside of that work I have been researching for my documentary (I don’t even know that that descriptor can be used accurately anymore) called “So Man created God in his own image” – the De-Evolution of Monotheism.  In my research I’ve read a number of ancient historians and what I have come to understand is that even though they are called historians, they really were “story tellers”  standing in the city square and verbally and colorfully embellishing the presention of the success of the Emporer’s last battle.  Even in fact, there seems to always be an agenda.  So the subject of “fact and truth” in you webisode was extremely interesting to me.

    I saw a study where people today are predisposed to NOT believe 100% the news they see, hear or read.  Your comment about news changing from station to station is something that should be further explored in another webisode.  Even today, the changes taking place in text books for U.S. students based solely on the recommendations of one panel in one state is another example of when should someone take as absolute the things we research and read and are they really THE truth and fact.

    I don’t really have a point here, other than it has been hard to go through historical research and take it “absolute fact”  I often wonder if the scribe was in a bad mood, or just had a fight with his wife, stubbed his toe, moments before he sat down to write and if that even clouded or skewed the tone of an event he was describing.

    From my perspective, I was interested simply in the “fact” that monotheism (one god) evolved out of polytheism (multiple gods) and were we seeing the beginnings of another evolution and if so, what might the next evolution be?  But I have found myself “interpreting” the intent of facts and research I have found.  So the question for me is “When can anyone rely on a historical presentation as absolute and fact?”

    Anyways, great topic – keep it going.

  25. Steve Weiss on May 24th, 2010 9:56 am

    I love talking about this kind of stuff Charles.  Let’s always remember that the victors write the history.  I agree that sifting through the available histories and trying to determine what is real, is our jobs as tellers of history.

    I like the theory that 1000 years from now, people will study that Polytheism led to monotheism which eventually let to atheism.  Maybe that will be the path of how this evolves.  Man needs religion to answer the big questions of why we live and die.  Without it, it’s hard to come up with a purpose for life that is comfortable and easy to sink you teeth into.  People are not comfortable with the concept of death being an end of everything we know.  It’s hard to write but may in the end be true.

    Fun subjects to ponder.
    Steve

  26. Steve Weiss on May 24th, 2010 9:57 am

    6.15.10

  27. Charles on May 27th, 2010 12:36 pm

    Steve – Just caught your reply.  I love taking about it too, to the point where my wife rolls her eyes and politely lets me go on talking to whoever is interested.  But somebody has to do it.

    I never really came at this topic in a premeditated way.  It evolved from my observations of how contrary in actual daily life people I knew were to the religion they professed to practice, regarless of the religion.  But through many years of casual research I have come to the conclusion that religions through the ages are no more and no different than political parties with establish rules and boundaries for the control of those who are members.  You have to have some boundaries and control when you have a group of people.  But, I have also come to realize that even though used interchangeably – religion is not faith.  Faith is jumping off the top bunkbed into the arms of your mother or father, never questioning that they wouldn’t catch you.

    My take on why monotheism evolved, at all. out of polytheism is, well, the same reasons there is McDonalds firmly entrenched in providing people hamburgers.  We used to go to our local favorite hamburger joint.  There were hundreds and hundreds of these.  Now, for the largest part, convenience, predictability and familiarity has won out over many possibilities each with their own distinctive taste.  And it’s what we’ve all settled for. I think one god just became more convenient, predictable and familiar.

    So I’m going at this documentary in a Man-on-the-street way, asking the simple question “do you think people will always believe in the one god we believe in today – the one god of the bible?”  And, “If god changes, what might it change into?”

    This will be asked of the cashier at the store, the CEO of corporations, religious leaders of every religion, the sales person at the GAP, biblical archeaologists, writers, the worker in their cubical, politicians, etc, etc. from all around the world (therein lies the production glitch)  These interviews will be interspersed with historically confirmed facts (at least as is possible from this vantage point) that show the social, economic and athropologic evolution away from polytheism to monotheism.

    Their cumulative answers hopefully will point to a trend that may be evolving in the human.  And I don’t think that trend will be seen until all the interviews are done – however long that takes.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that man’s ego defined the need for an afterlife – we feel we are too important to just dissapear.  But for me personally, I think death is exactly the same as before birth.  I never experienced anything before my birth and I will not experience anything after my death.  I think its that simple.

    Hope I didn’t hijack your comments here, but your film started me off on this.

    chk

  28. Susan Rapp on May 27th, 2010 1:01 pm

    Phil, As always, thanks for your support of the shows. Yes, you won’t to disappointed in the round table discussions and how much dedication these Docu Filmmakers have for their craft. Cheers, ~Sue

  29. Susan Rapp on May 27th, 2010 1:02 pm

    Chris ~ we really appreciate your support of the series. Cheers, ~Sue

  30. Susan Rapp on May 27th, 2010 1:04 pm

    Eddie ~ the last 3rd webisode of the shootout premieres the week of May 24 (by Friday). Sorry we don’t have a specific date. See you then, ~Sue

  31. Susan Rapp on May 27th, 2010 1:13 pm

    Lindsay ~ Scott Lynch, our Video Marketing producer discusses the lighting set up that was designed by our Producer and DP Jens Bogehegn. You can find this by watching our “Behind the Scenes” video from FilmFellas Cast 4&5. Click each link below and scroll down the player until you reach:
    BTS Cast 4 – http://www.zacuto.com/filmfellas-cast-4
    BTS Cast 5 – http://www.zacuto.com/filmfellas-cast-5
    Hope that helps + enjoy…. ~Sue

  32. Steve Weiss on May 27th, 2010 9:59 pm

    Charles, I agree.
    I especially like how you refer to your death as the same as before you were born.  That is the best analogy of death I’ve ever heard.  I guess what we need to take from all of this is to live and live large.  I hope the end of your documentary (which is within your right to make a moving motion picture with tons of actual drama) has people in tearful moments as they celebrate their life, their happiest moments, their sadest ones, the boring ones….All we really have in the end are moments, documented by images and video.  If someone looks at a picture of you when you are gone, remembers you, has an emotional response about you.  Haven’t you lived on?  What is living on?  What is afterlife?  Does Christ not live, we talk about him everyday, his image is everywhere you go?  If that is not afterlife what is?   I don’t believe the text, I see the subtext.
    Steve

  33. Rafael A. P. Maduro on June 6th, 2010 1:55 pm

    ok only 14 minutes on such important theme, COME ON guys this is a 30 minutes for sure, there is so much to learn from this talents and for some of us ( me ) is very complicated to get in touch directly and have this sort of conversations, would be nice at least 25 minutes since when everything was starting to get really intense you credits on us. :S
    but amazing job as usual 

  34. Steve Weiss on June 6th, 2010 8:54 pm

    Rafael,
    This is just part 1 of a 5 part series.  Hang in there, when complete it will be 80 minutes long.

  35. H. Wolfgang Porter on June 26th, 2010 12:02 pm

    Okay folks, where’s the rest? Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick….

  36. Steve Weiss on June 26th, 2010 12:55 pm

    Should be coming Wed. June 30

  37. Susan Rapp on June 28th, 2010 12:32 pm

    [ SHOW ANNOUNCEMENT ] ~ FilmFellas Cast 7: Webisode 2 will launch here this week on Wednesday June 30th. We will release 5 Webisodes of this cast and rotate them with Cast 8: ASC Cinematographers. Save the date. Cheers, ~Sue

  38. Christopher Harley on June 28th, 2010 7:41 pm

    Sweet! This is the best news. I’m just now listening to Steve talk to Carl Olson on 16X9 Cinema and he’s describing the Directors and DIY Directors series on FilmFellas. Big stuff on the way!

  39. H. Wolfgang Porter on June 30th, 2010 12:15 pm

    Today’s the day! What time? It’s already 12:00 pm CST…. Roll’em or we’ll have to take Susan as ‘collateral’!

  40. Cliff Etzel on June 30th, 2010 3:35 pm

    Another great FilmFellas episode on my favorite form of film making.

    You rock as always Sue!!!

  41. Susan Rapp on June 30th, 2010 5:49 pm

    Cliff ~ Big thanks + glad you enjoyed!!! See you in Twitterville, ~Sue

  42. Susan Rapp on June 30th, 2010 5:51 pm

    Christopher ~ Thanks and by listening to the 16X9 podcast with Steve Weiss, you have all the inside scoop now. But we have some surprises coming too. Cheers, ~Sue

  43. Darren on July 2nd, 2010 3:00 pm

    See, this is why different ages in these shows are vital.

    David gives us a sense of history and even unfamiliarity in the social media arena.  Sean has very little history due to his age, but goes full force with today’s technology and uses it to his benefit.  And Ondi is somewhere in between.

    Whether intentional or not, to me, this adds such an additional layer already to the subject of documentaries in this topic.

    What also inspires me is how humble David is in his openess to want to learn about Facebook etc.

    Good job!

  44. Steve Weiss on July 3rd, 2010 2:21 pm

    Darren,
    Thank you for noticing.  That is intentional.  We try to span different generations when we can in our shows.  The point of this show was to have 4 different people with 4 different backgrounds, TV, feature, web & corporate and I think we covered 4 different generations as weil.  I’m very happy with this cast.

  45. Darren on July 4th, 2010 3:45 am

    HAH! Sorry Steve, I get so used to use as the “host” that I forget that you are the 4th person…. LOL

  46. Jon McKee on July 28th, 2010 10:35 am

    Best closing line ever!  

  47. Phil Hoyt on July 28th, 2010 12:03 pm

    I wanna work at Zacuto and sweep the floors. any openings?!

  48. Cliff Etzel on July 28th, 2010 12:11 pm

    Weiss – priceless ending statement!

    Another valuable piece of insight around what we do these days – Thanks yet again!

  49. Susan Rapp on July 28th, 2010 12:21 pm

    Jon ~ My thoughts exactly!! We never know what our fabulous Mr Weiss will say on camera and we like it that way! Twitter hugs, ~Sue

  50. Susan Rapp on July 28th, 2010 12:22 pm

    Phil ~ this kills me! Email us your talents: sue@zacuto.com. Cheers, ~Sue

  51. Susan Rapp on July 28th, 2010 12:22 pm

    Cliff ~ He is good. Once again, thanks for all your support of our web series. Hugs, ~Sue

  52. Rob Imbs on July 28th, 2010 12:35 pm

    “It’s hard enough to make a decent film, what the hell do you want rules for”? HAHa! Amen Steve.

  53. Steve Weiss on July 28th, 2010 2:50 pm

    Thanks Jon, you never know what will come out of my mouth, I’m sometimes surprised.  ;)

  54. Susan Rapp on July 28th, 2010 4:21 pm

    Rob ~ we live by the no-rules-rule here at the Z-house. How all is well and you are having a fabulous summer!! I will let you know when we will be filming the next show. Twitter hugs, ~Sue

  55. MisaGarcia on July 29th, 2010 12:02 pm

    Great episode!  Really like that every generation is represented!  Great ending of course.  You can always count of Steve surprising you like that! ha!  Cheers Steve!

  56. Susan Rapp on July 29th, 2010 1:31 pm

    Hey Misa ~ Sometimes I get giddy when certain things come out of Steve’s mouth during filmming! He’s just that good! Hope you guys are having a fun summer & come back to ChiTown anytime. Big hug, ~Sue

  57. Rob Imbs on July 29th, 2010 2:05 pm

    Sounds great Zue, I’m anxious to come visit Chicago.

  58. Alex 'PR!MO' Luster on July 31st, 2010 9:28 am

    Really enjoyed this cast… Thanks for doing this guys!

  59. M Larson on September 11th, 2010 4:17 am

    Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t film making about setting up your own rules and try to follow them. Maybe change them sometimes or even break them but to make a film without rules would in my eyes be a really bad film. I mean if you make a film saying lets break all rules. Thats a rule: To break the rules. Just a thought… Great show by the way! Thanks a lot! (from Sweden and therefore crappy english)  

  60. claudioagmfilho on October 12th, 2010 10:48 am

    great show …

  61. Saj on October 21st, 2010 5:10 pm

    This just inspired me to get back on the edit.  Two years in post on a feature length doc requires some inspiration once a while and I’m happy I can find it so easily.

  62. Susan Rapp on October 21st, 2010 5:25 pm

    Say ~ I’m glad our show gave you inspiration. Docs Rock! Cheers, ~sue

  63. Steve Weiss on October 21st, 2010 9:55 pm

    good for you Saj

  64. Gert Kracht on December 30th, 2010 12:33 pm

    Ah controversies! Throw them all on the table, mix them up and see what comes out. If I remember it right there are four people people sitting at the table who each make different sorts of film and ways of publishing the material: in theaters (film), television and via Internet.

    The Internet has brought some of those products together. Film is published on, and people can watch film via the Internet, but does it FEEL like film in the theater. Same with television and the way how people can give their opinions. A movie has to be seen first in a theater before people can react. Same goes for television. Internet has the buttons on the screen and next to it there is a window where people can talk about it. Which is best? Comments straight away or read about it in the papers (mostly written by one person, who could have had a very bad day).

    I think the Internet brings us a more direct and honest way of talking about the film. But! The maker always has to remember: 100% satisfied customers will never happen. It’s a product you make, and like any other product you have to built it. Listen to your customers. Like many company’s discovered in 2010…..

    If the story feels good, you can show it to a small group of people. If the same feeling happens with that group it may become a hit. Or, you may have to change it before releasing it in the theater or television.

    It’s not only the man with the camera. There is so much more people involved in a production. And yes, there are single people products out there. And yes, they might be the ten people out of a million. But most of time more people are involved. Each person has his or her own specialty and you need all of them to SELL the product so people can see it.

    I’m looking forward to the last three episodes! And please keep on spoiling us with these series!

    All best wishes for the Z-Team and all guests they invited in their studio.

    Gert

    P.S. Nice trailer!

  65. Susan Rapp on December 30th, 2010 1:31 pm

    Wow Gert ~ thanks for such amazing insights. Now that I’m in web production, I have different feelings about theatrical releases. Although I think all movies look better in theatres, the web gives you an endless audience & instant feedback. It’s interesting to see what’s happening now and what’s to come of feature film distribution. When asked about people watching his films online (illegally of course) James Cameron said, “Do you want it now? Or do you want it great?” Big hugs and Happy, Happy New Year. Cheers, ~Sue

  66. Cliff Etzel on December 30th, 2010 1:32 pm

    Another great webisode – this is by far my favorite cast as I have along history of shooting documentary stills since the late 80′s.  

    Kudo’s to all who put this together.

  67. Susan Rapp on December 30th, 2010 1:45 pm

    Cliff ~ thanks for the kudos. I think this casts gets into the “real life” of documentary filmmakers. Ondi Timoner is a great example. I can’t imagine following a subject and making a film for 10 years of your life. Cheers, ~Sue

  68. Steve Weiss on December 30th, 2010 4:51 pm

    I’m might have been off on the Millions vs. 10 who hit it.  ;)  

    I guess if there is one thing that I would like to get through to everyone is that this should be a collaborative effort.  There is still a director who is making decisions from all of crazy ideas out there and it will all be perceived as his when all is said and done.  Find specialists in writing, cinematography, music, foley, design, costumes, etc.  Each one of those specialties have an indie movement.  COLLABORATE.

  69. Rob Imbs on December 30th, 2010 4:53 pm

    My mom doesn’t like my work, coming to terms with that made me immune to other people saying bad things about my stuff :D

    And I agree with Sean, I make my stuff for me, I completely ignore people who don’t offer valid/constructive criticsm.

    Sean gives people 30 seconds on vimeo before he closes the window? I probably give them less. ;D

    “Millions of people can have cameras, 10 of them can tell stories” When does Zacuto start printing these T-shirts?

  70. Darren on January 3rd, 2011 1:13 pm

    I think screenings/focus groups are important.  Sometimes as a filmaker, you can become blind.  I think the biggest issue is if you have the humility to take input cause in the end, it will always help you to become better.

    I think David’s comment that he values his wife’s critique shows his willingness to listen to the critic that could be the most hurtful to him.

    Great job guys.

  71. John Novotny on January 5th, 2011 12:39 am

    This was an interesting piece where I think most creative professionals can relate. My work is no where near the calibre of the people in this video, a mere Nazgul to their Sauron if you will. But if I do submit my work for critique and if I get a negative review I usually wait to see if it’s echoed by others. If it’s an isolated instance I don’t pay much attention.

    Vimeo is definately not the place for an honest critique. When I was in school my instructors beat it into our heads to “NEVER burn your bridges” professionally. Vimeo is largely a community of creative pros who are looking to make connections and it’s simply bad marketing to piss off someone who might be a valuable contact down the road. Although if I really like someones work on Vimeo, shoving professional jealousy aside, I will promote the heck out of it because ultimately I love to see other peoples genius succeed.

    Unfortunately for most of us the most honest critique will be from 15 year old “haters” on Youtube.
    :-D

    BTW these webisodic series seem to be really maturing they’re really interesting to watch. Especially Critics, Steve seems to have confidently settled into his role as host. And then theres that Phil bloke who’s uh… well you know, nobody’s perfect.
    ;)

  72. Steve Weiss on January 7th, 2011 11:12 pm

    Thanks John.

  73. John Novotny on January 21st, 2011 9:50 pm

    BTW that was an honest critique, lol.

  74. Anders Dahl on April 5th, 2011 7:11 pm

    I don’t see the latest FilmFellas on iTunes?

  75. Susan Rapp on April 6th, 2011 11:25 am

    Anders ~ We’ve been wanting to add the shows to iTunes but have some technical issues. Sorry for that and thanks for watching our web series. Cheers, ~Sue

  76. Susan Rapp on April 6th, 2011 11:27 am

    Darren ~ very good point. Steve also mentions that you should never edit your own work…because you get too attached to certain scenes or shots. Thanks for watching. Cheers, ~Sue

  77. Susan Rapp on April 6th, 2011 11:28 am

    Rob ~ wow, less than 30 seconds before pulling the plug? That’s harsh!! Cheers, ~Sue

  78. Kyle Hilton on July 19th, 2011 4:42 pm

    Where is episode 34?

  79. Anonymous on September 4th, 2011 6:14 am

    Laissez ici votre commentaire en respectant les lois. Tout commentaire jugé inapproprié (agressif, raciste, diffamatoire, publicitaire, grossier, hors sujet…) sera supprimé

FilmFellas Cast 7 Emmy Nomination




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FilmFellas Cast 7

FilmFellas Cast 7: Documentaries “Masters of Non-Fiction” features an award winning cast of Documentary filmmakers with David Grubin, one of the most decorated documentarian in history with 10 Emmys and numerous awards for groundbreaking series’ for PBS Television (The American Experience, The Jewish Americans, LBJ, RFK, FDR), Ondi Timoner 2009 Sundance Grand Jury Prize for We Live In Public & DIG and Sean Dunne, the next generation of web based documentarians and Sundance Official Selection for The Archive.

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David Grubin (Producer/Director)
Sean Dunne (Producer/Director)


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